We recently reached out to the guys in Summit Racing’s renowned tech department—the largest full-time staff in the industry—to identify and answer five common tech questions they hear on a consistent basis. With help from Summit Racing’s tech advisors and other industry experts, we’ll answer those questions here at OnAllCylinders. Today’s topic: transmissions.
The specific question: “What type of transmission do I have?”
It’s a basic question, but according to Summit Racing technical department supervisor Norm Koval, it’s a topic that comes up quite often among customers. It’s also a key question central to your vehicle’s performance, and it needs answered before you can proceed with a variety of performance or maintenance projects.
We have all the confidence in the world that you’ll be able to distinguish between a basic automatic or manual tranny. Now, with help from Koval and the Summit Racing tech staff, we’ll help you figure out which specific automatic or manual transmission plants your vehicle’s rear wheels.
We’ll start with common automatic transmissions.
Automatic Transmissions
Some transmissions may have a code stamped into their case or a tag riveted to them. According to Koval, the easiest way to identify an automatic transmission, though, is by transmission pan shape. “Almost all have their own shape and pan bolt design,” Koval said. “Some are square; others are shaped like Louisiana or Texas or some other comparable shape.”
We compiled a slide show of specific pan shapes and matched them up to their automatic transmission counterparts. Find your pan shape—and ultimately your automatic transmission—in the images below:
Another way to determine your transmission is by measuring the overall dimensions. The good folks at Summit Racing also provided us with charts for that:
GM Automatic Transmissions | ||||||
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Type | 1st Gear | 2nd Gear | 3rd Gear | 4th Gear | Overall Length | Bellhousing-to-Transmission Length |
TH-350 | 2.52 | 1.52 | 1.00 | -- | 27-5/8" * | 20-3/8" |
TH-400 | 2.48 | 1.48 | 1.00 | -- | 28-1/4" + | 26-3/4" |
TH-200-4R | 2.74 | 1.57 | 1.00 | 0.67 | 27-3/4" | 26-7/8" |
TH-700-R4 & 4L60 | 3.06 | 1.62 | 1.00 | 0.70 | 23-3/8" # | 22-3/8" # |
4L60E | 3.06 | 1.62 | 1.00 | 0.70 | 30-3/4" | 22-3/8" |
4L80E | 2.48 | 1.48 | 1.00 | 0.75 | 31-1/2" | 30-3/8" |
*With 6″ (short) tailhousing | +With short tailhousing | #Except Corvette |
Ford Automatic Transmissions | ||||||
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Type | 1st Gear | 2nd Gear | 3rd Gear | 4th Gear | Overall Length | Bellhousing-to- Transmission Length |
C4 | 2.46 | 1.46 | 1.00 | -- | 30-1/2" | 20-1/4" |
C6 | 2.46 | 1.46 | 1.00 | -- | 30-1/2" | 22 1/2" |
AOD | 2.40 | 1.46 | 1.00 | 0.67 | 30-3/4" | 22-1/4" |
E40D | 2.71 | 1.53 | 1.00 | 0.70 | 37-1/2" | 29-3/8" |
Chrysler Automatic Transmissions | ||||||
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Type | 1st Gear | 2nd Gear | 3rd Gear | 4th Gear | Overall Length | Bellhousing-to- Transmission Length |
A904 | 2.74 | 1.54 | 1.00 | -- | 30-1/2" | 22-2/3" |
A727 | 2.45 | 1.45 | 1.00 | -- | 34-3/8" | 22-2/3" |
A518/A618 | 2.45 | 1.45 | 1.00 | 0.69 | 36-7/8" | 24" |
A500 | 2.74 | 1.54 | 1.00 | 0.69 | 34-1/2" | 24-1/2" |
Manual Transmissions
Manual transmissions are a little bit trickier to identify, so we turned to our friends at Hurst, who have assembled a handy assortment of diagrams to help you positively ID your manual tranny. Click on your standard transmission speed below and match your manual tranny to the external characteristics and diagram notes:
“As you look things over you may notice casting bosses or provisions on your transmission’s tailshaft housing,” Koval said. “Take note of the number and location. Other things to consider: On the main case, where is the inspection cover…is it a side cover or a top cover? How many bolts secure the cover to the main case and is one edge of the cover curved or straight?”
The selector arms will also help you determine the ID of your transmission, according to Koval. “How do the selector arms mount? Are there mounting studs protruding from the side case or are the selector arms secured with a bolt instead?
Using these clues and the diagrams above, you can narrow down the identity of your manual transmission. Once you’ve made a positive ID, your sales rep or tech advisor can steer you in the right direction for transmission replacement components, performance upgrades, rebuild kits, and other items to help harness all your vehicle’s power.
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I am looking to Identify a Transmission, KMHGC4DD8, or CU193436. I am not sure how to identify what it is. It is an automatic I believe.
Im looking to identify transmission casting number 3702602 GM5 d184
came in a bel air 1954 got a kit to repair it but will not be the same parts I’m very confuse with this situation can you please help me?
Thank you.
I have a o6 ford explorer 4wheel drive.eddie.bower adition i would like to know what fromt seal to get for to put it in motor 4.0
Still didnt answer my question I have a 1956 ford pick up truck with a 302 v8 and automatic
Transmission pan fed but I’m missing filler tube that screws into the transmission pan I found a number on the case 9-403911 the pan is square with 14 bolts can you please help me Id the type of transmission it is so I can get a filler tube
If the pan is square and 14 bolts, it would seem to indicate an FMX. You can verify the exact shape and pattern here.
http://www.spiderautomotive.com/transmission2.html
Where do I look for answer
Hello, I have a transmission with the letters and numbers of WGT2C-1 , with a manual floor shifter. Can you tell me what it goes to and if it is worth keeping for someone who could use it? Thanks for any help.
Hi there I just purchased a 5 speed manual transmission that is supposed to be for a 2003 toyota corolla. However, the shifter levers are on the front instead of the back. The number stamped in the housing is Z91008601, what transmission is this?
I have one also, I’ was told by a local wrecking yard it is from a ’65 Mustang, Falcon or Galaxy v8, heavy duty? That’s all I know. Mine is in primo condition and for sale minus the side shift levers. If interested call me at 530-626-6043.
Ryan, I just noticed my transmission is missing the B at the end of the C8AR 7006′ so not sure what the B stands for?
I have a 2003 Chevrolet Tracker. Transmission tag ID 02AQ223647. How can I tell if this is the original transmission or a replaced transmission. Thank you!
I am stumped! Have a 7-bolt ( 2 top, 2 mid, 3 bottom) side panel transmission. Date 1-20-67; stamp by plug 2601100; stamp pat “bell” 670370126; stamp on tailshaft 2801097. came out of an impala, but cannot pinpoint if its correct or what kind of transmission it is. 🙁 please help?
i have tranny came out 84 ford thunderbird needn to know f c5 or aod # are 049085-m1 an e4sp-da
6278212 transmission what vehicle is it for
I have a 01 grand Cherokee that was a 4.7 now switched over to a 4.0 the tags and the rivet for a tag to id what transmission it is is missing what are other way to determine if i have a 42RE or a 44RE transmission
On my automatic transmission C4/C5 there is a big 5 casted on the transmission body. My servo cover has code E2TP-70027-AA. Are this indentifications that I have a C5 transmission?
Thank you.
Not sure what transmission I have, I have the following information 350 Transmission: ACDelco, A_TA G, 24209677, Serial No. 10 1019 016
Any help identifying this transmission is appreciated,
Thanks!
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I have a ford gearbox but unsure if it’s a c10 or not casting number on it is DOAP-70027-A and a big R on top of it. 32 spline input and 26 output I think
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Mr. Dimascio, I’m writing to find out how your transmission issue worked out. I, too, have a b4000 Mazda. I also bought a ranger believing the tranny’s were alike…and 1 bolt did not line up. So now I have 2 pick-ups and 2 trannys in my driveway.
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Hi,
Just pick-up a supposedly C-6 trans. out of a 66′ t-bird.
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That’s a great article for beginners like myself who don’t know much about transmission
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Hi.
Vehicle: 1996 GMC K2500 Suburban 7.4 Lt.
VIN: 3GKGK26J4TG511185
I need to buy the oxygen sensors and my auto parts store is asking if I have a 4L60-E transmission.
Doing a web search, I came across your site and would be grateful if you could tell me the type of automatic transmission in my truck. Is it a 4L60-E ?
Thank you.
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10 too6th spline.
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Good article and info.
I have a question that maybe you can help. I have a 1959 chevrolet Impala with a 4 speed transmission, but I don’t know what typeit is. Casting #38805010. Need to know so I can fix my speed gear. Thanks.
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