Variable Valve Timing (VVT) is a system that automatically adjusts valve timing.
GM used VVT on the following engines within the LS family.
LS VVT Applications
Displacement | RPO Code | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
4.8L | L20 | |||||
5.3L | LC9 | LH9 | LMF | LMG | ||
6.0L | L76 | L96 | LC8 | LFA | LY6 | LZ1 |
6.2L | L92 | L94 | L99 | L9H |
(Summit Racing’s Paul Spurlock and Brian Nutter contributed to this article.)
How Does VVT Work?
The computer senses engine load. It also monitors valve timing through the camshaft position sensor. It then uses that VVT data to determine the best valve timing for the current conditions.
The computer sends a signal to a solenoid on the timing cover. The solenoid controls oil flow through a special control valve in the camshaft bolt. The valve sends oil into the phaser control chambers.
The actuator rotates one way or the other, depending on the oil flow. That rotation is used to advance or retard the camshaft as needed.
How Does VVT Affect Performance?
VVT gives you the best of both worlds. It can advance valve timing for a smooth idle and low-end torque. It can also retard the valve timing for more top-end power. And, it’s all done automatically.
VVT becomes an issue when swapping a cam:
- Piston-to-valve clearance can be a problem.
- Your choices for valve lift and duration are limited.
- The high spring pressure required for performance cams can overpower the actuator.
If you want to upgrade your camshaft and keep the VVT system, you will need a Camshaft Phaser Limiter.
If you want high performance from a bigger cam, you will need to delete the VVT system. (More on that in a second.)
How You Can Tell Whether Your LS has VVT
Engines with VVT will have a camshaft phaser actuator on the timing cover. They also have a five-pin connector for the VVT and camshaft sensor.
Engines without VVT will not have the actuator. They only have a three-pin connector for the camshaft sensor.
GM used two different actuator designs.
In 2007-08, the actuator has 62-degree rotation. GM part number 12585994.
In 2008-15, the actuator has 52-degree rotation. GM part number 12606358.
How Can I Delete the VVT on my LS Engine?
Eliminating the VVT system is required when swapping to a non-VVT camshaft. These cams offer higher valve lift and longer duration for more performance.
A VVT delete kit removes the VVT components and replaces them with standard parts. At a minimum, they include:
- A Gen. 4, non-VVT timing cover
- A new, 4X, non-VVT upper timing gear
- A new harmonic balancer bolt
- New camshaft bolts
Some kits will also include additional parts, such as:
- A new lower timing gear
- A new timing chain
- A new timing chain guide
The type of VVT Delete Kit you need depends on the camshaft you are using.
1-Bolt Camshafts
- Click here to see VVT Delete Kits for 1-bolt cams.
3-Bolt Camshafts
- Click here to see VVT Delete Kits for 3-bolt cams.
Eliminating the VVT system is required when swapping to a non-VVT camshaft. These cams offer higher valve lift and longer duration for more performance.
After installing one of these kits:
- You will be locked-in to the valve timing.
- The computer will no longer automatically adjust the valve timing.
- You will also need to tune the computer.
- This will optimize the fuel and ignition curves for the new camshaft, and turn off the VVT system in the computer.
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NOTE: You can find engine specs and detailed engine upgrade advice for every LS and LS-based Vortec truck engine in one place: The Definitive Guide to LS Engine Specs and LS Engine Upgrades.
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Is there a link to INSTRUCTIONS on removing the VVT components and replacing with the VVT Delete kit?
Hey Norm, replacing the VVT components is much like doing a cam swap. Really the upper cam sprocket is the main difference. You can find directions to performing a LS cam swap HERE.
If i put a motor with vvt system into a truck model without the vvt system
Can I just not plugging it or i need vvt cancel kit ?
I apologize for my writing , I’m not really good in English.
Thanks .
Etienne, your English is just fine.
If you used the ECM and harness from the VVT equipped engine, it will work. If you tried to use a non-vvt ECM, the engine will not perform well because the cam would always be in the “parked” position.
The phaser moves as much as 62 degrees, so you can imagine a camshaft being in the wrong position the majority of the time. It would be much better to install a VVT delete kit and a non VVT cam before you put the engine in the vehicle.
Can i put a 2013 4.8 into my 2005 Express (4.8 with 250k miles) with the VVT delete kit and keep the installed cam? (not a performance application)
Mike, the 2007-09 LY2 and 2010-17 L210 model 4.8s were gen. 4 engines with a 58x reluctor ring on the crank. A 1999-06 LR4 is likely what you have in your 2005 Express and it came with a reluctor ring. Those engines and ECM were set up for a 24X reluctor ring. To run the later model engine in your truck would require the ECM, Harness, and pedal to work.
Then there is a question of whether it would work with your dash or gauges without issue. With your 24X ECM, it would be best to find a LR4 or one of the four different Gen. 3 5.3s to swap in (LM4, LM7, L59 or L33).
How about the other way around with non vvt engine into 2011 truck with vvt do I used the vvt delete kit to used the cam sensor at the cover the engine I got has cam sensor at the rear I got the harnessto this engine
did the swap work
Hey I’m swapping a used non vvt engine into a engine bay that use to have vvt looking at your notes all I need to do is change timing gear and move cam to the timing cover I’m gonna use timing cover from old vvt engine on non vvt so that the cam sensor is on timing cover but how important is it to swap out the cam gears bolts and crank bolt
If you use a VVT delete kit can you use say edge and diablo tuner that turns the VVT off? or do you need to send the ecm off to have it tuned out?
If a disabler is used, it will not need to be turned off inside the ECM. If you’re looking for added performance though, a tune is well worth the money.
Is there any gen. 4 model of the ls 6.0 made without vvt or should I just go with an earlier gen motor for a c10 motor swap?
Joe, Gen. 4 6.0’s iron blocks will all have VVT. With VVT delete kits being fairly inexpensive, you don’t have to be too picky when a good deal on an engine comes your way.
DO YOU STILL HAVE TO USE THE 3 PIN CAM SENSOR ?
can i install a 2010 6.0 with vvt in my 2008 silverado non vvt do the vvt delete and keep the vv. cam in the motor
You can put the 2010 model in your 2008 with the VVT delete kit, but you will need to backdate to an earlier style cam. The VVT camshaft itself would have the wrong timing events in a standard engine. A stock replacement cam would this one from Melling.
If you wanted to give it a bit more pop, the Summit Racing Stage 1 truck cam is a great choice. With that cam, an ECM tune is a plus, but not required and it works fine with the factory valve springs.
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i have 6.0 block with vvt system 2008 … i swap cam ls1 comp cams + ls1 harness .. do i need this kit to delete vvt and use standard cam sensor ?
The 2006+ 6.0L engines were all Gen. 4 with the 58X reluctor ring on the crankshaft. If you are using the LS1 ECM, it will not work. If you do have the Gen. 4 late model ECM (and front timing cover mounted cam sensor), you could use your normal COMP Cam and a VVT delete kit along with tuning.
I did a cam swap on my Chevy 2013 4.8. I did the VVT delete kit ( swapped timing gear, cover, etc). Since there is no where to plug in the ‘VVT’ plug into the solenoid, what am I supposed to do with this plug? How to remove it? It’s only purpose is the other plug attached which is plugged into the cam position sensor. and the plug that used to go into the vvt solenoid is just dangling there… thoughts? is this a problem? truck has been tuned and all. How to remove without damaging cam position sensor wire
You could cut it or (just in case the harness is ever used elsewhere) heat shrink it and electrical tape it to the other wiring.
I have an 07 Denali 6.2 that’s losing oil pressure, can I use a cheaper iron block 6.0 and install a vvt setup on it to save some money? Or my 2nd option can I install a 6.0 without vvt and just have it tuned to keep cel off without it there?
The L92 is a great engine and didn’t have AFM to deal with.
You may have done it already but if you are losing oil pressure, the first thing to check would be the small filter (p/n RNB-917-143) underneath the pressure sensor at the back of the intake manifold.
If you’ve ruled that out, a 6.0 without VVT or with a VVT delete kit will work if the weight gain from an iron block is acceptable.
You will be looking for a L76 Truck engine with an AFM delete kit, L96 (with your present intake manifold/injectors), or LY6 which would be the most direct swap.
Of course swapping your top end onto a ATK HPE-SP71 415 short block and a SUM-8712 cam is always an option.
Hello! A lot of good stuff here!! I have a 11 Silverado 5.3 with vvt and dod I recently switched the cam with a tsp vvt camshaft and locked out the cam phaser as well as did the dod delete , new springs, hardened rods, ls6 lifters etc. I did a get me by tune with the diablo sport tuner on mid grade tune as well as deleted the dod electronically.. my question that I can’t seem to find is. Being I locked out the cam phaser my check engine light remains on for the cam position sensor I’m assuming because my ecm is calling for more advance or retard than what it can make because of the lockout? How would I go about getting that tuned in? Is it fine like this and if so can I some how clear the code for good
You’ll have to have the tuner/tune change/ed the limits the cam sensor and the phaser Is reporting. I think you’re right, in that the one isn’t matching what the other expects. Is the tune you have a canned tune, or can you touch base with where you got it? My guess is it was an over site or a glitch when the new tune was made or flashed. Btw, how is that build going for you. I have a similar one planned in the near future.
Hey appreciate the mission !
I have an 08 Denali 6.2 vvt, no afm,
I’m in the middle of a rebuild and wondering if the
Cam Motion Drop-In Mild Performance LS Truck Camshafts 03-01-0031 is a good option? If not what one will fit? I don’t want to delete vvt and go aggressive, and have to dyno tune it. The cam has to be replaced either way so I appreciate the info you guys are amazing . Also how about cam bearings for these applicable cams.
Thanks
How do you tune out vvt on the computer
More importantly, in a State where obd2 inspections occur, this would obviously be tampering, so think about the ability to tune out the vvt all the while realizing the law is being broken in doing so. I digress. Carry on in the spirit of personal Freedom.
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I have a 6.2L L99 for a swap.I wish to transform it with carburetor and MSD controler.If i delete the VVT actuator on the timing cover,it’s ok or maybe a problem with the cams?
Thanks
Hola puedo poner ami GMC envoy 5.3. 2008 sin vvt un motor 5.3 de 2010
Con vvt
hello brother hope u r doing well!
ive one issue in my 2009 sierra 1500 ,my engine has the cam phaser actuater but its blows up , so i had to change it so i found 40k mile engine but without cam phaser and fitted it in , with the old wiring and ecm , now i cannot get red of the check engine light telling about missing cam shaft phaser , any suggestions plz , appreciate ur help man
i have a 2012 Avalanche at the shop and we did a DOD delete (replaced all 16 lifters and holders single bolt camshaft,timing gear set top & bottom gears no VVT also replace top valley plate then had it programmed by another shop now we have 340 cam sensor circuit code making for a long crank before starting even get a little backfire once in awhile other then that it runs great any ideas on fixes for this ????
I have a 2012 Camaro SS 6.2L L99. I recently had one of the AFM lifters collapse. I am in the process of swapping out all the lifters (including the non afm lifters) to LS3 lifters, new pushrods, new non AFM valley cover. Can I keep the stock cam without losing the VVT? If not, can I replace the current cam with a stock cam from the same year camaro except it has a manual transmission? The manual trans cars have the LS3 platform with no AFM or VVT. On your engine spec portion of your website looking at the comparisons between the LS3 engine and L99 engine, the stock cams listed for both cars is the exact same GM part number (GM# 12623066). The L99 states AFM and VVT are present under cam specs, but the LS# states that it is not present under the cam specs. Which is correct?
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I have a late model 07 chevy 1500 with a bad motor. I was wondering if a 05 5.3 would work since some of the sensors are different? The main one is the cam sensor since the 07 had vvt with sensor in the front and the 05 has the sensor by the back of the intake. I guess my question is if I would extend the wire harness to plug in to the 05 5.3 cam sensor would the ecm read I correctly? I know I am going to have to get the ecm reprogrammed to delete the afm also. Any help would be great. Thank
What are the downsides to deleting the vvt? I have a 6.0l L96 2017 Silverado 2500hd with a whipple supercharger. I am considering installing a little bit bigger cam. Do I actually need the vvt? The truck is used as a daily driver and I also pull a 13,000lb 5th wheel at times.
I installed a L99 out of a 2010 SS Camaro into my 1947 Chevy truck. I also purchased a Billet specialties front accessory drive kit in order to move everything to a top mount location. The Eldebrock water pump that came with the kit is hitting the front cover where the VVT sensor rides.
Can I simply replace the front cover and delete the VVT function without replacing the camshaft or will I need to replace the cam as well?
If so, how will this affect the performance? I assume the engine will not perform as well without the capability of adjusting the timing?
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Help guys! I swapped crap 5.3l, because it was blown, and to avoid a repeat AFM lifter issue, I replaced it with a 6.0l. It’s my wife’s 2009 Suburban K1500, the 6.0l was from a 2010 Silverado. Issue is the 2010 had VVT and my options for the 2009 6.0l did not. So my tube guy says I need to delete the VVT. Is there another option? This is literally her daily driver, not going for some crazy custom tune and not really wanting to spend another grand on it. She’s pissed at me, my bank account is pissed at me, and all because I said, “sweetheart, let’s drop a 6.0l in that bitch and be done with it!” If she says that mocking me one more time, I’ll pull out what hair I got left! Please somebody hit me with some good news.
In relation to VVT delete kit -what is the difference in vvt and non vvt timing cover. distance from sensor to reluctor?
What would be the maximum lift and duration to avoid PTV clearance issues? I’m working on a 2010 Silverado with the 6.2 L9h vvt. I plan on keeping the Vvt system during a cam swap.
I have a 2011 Kia Sorento XS come with cvvt engine. I swap the engine with 2009 Kia amanti cvt engine. Engine run fine and drive perfect. But I had check engine light on. I want to know if can delete engine runner, cvvt timing from the ECM.
Any help
hi,
I have a 2008 Silverado 4.8L and I got a LY6.
Can I use the camshaft from my 4.8L and install it in the LY6?
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I have an 09 GMC Sierra I have recently did a 5.3 to 6.2 swap I am deleting my VVT off the 6.2 I have got a new cam new sprocket new chain but I am having an issue I need to know how is my timing chain lubricated with my new cam the VVT cam has a weep valve that lets oil pass through my new cam will not allow this
I have a 2010 Camaro SS 2SS roller. The engine I’m installing is a L76 6.0 L with a 6L80E from a 2008 Pontiac G8 GT
I’ve done the DOD delete with camshaft, LS7 lifters, trunnions, LS3 valley cover, 3 bolt timing gear, LS2 damper, roller rockers, ported LS3 intake Throttle body, Camaro oil pan.
The L76 had no VVT, but the Camaro L99 did have VVT. The LS wiring harness has the 5 wire cam sensor at the rear of the intake manifold, but my L76 engines’ cam sensor is a 3 wire sensor on the front of the timing cover. Which of the Camaro engine harness five wires cam sensor plug are required for my 3 wire cam sensor? Is there an adapter harness I can buy?
Also my Camaro harness 6L80E plug at pin 6 is not used, but on my Pontiac harness 6L80E pin 6 is used. What is pin 6 source?
Any suggestions would be appreciated and thanks in advance for your help.
Love the blog, 2011 silverado 4.8
Help 3rd lifter stuck nicked cam in 2014 did a cam swap honestly didn’t pay attention to the vvt stuff, 7000 miles later doing 65 down the interstate truck totally shuts down will not start again, have spark,fuel,timing dead on, compression for the most part ok kinda up and down throwing me off a little, if it had anything to do with the vvt stuff would it ran this long and it has been until died on me a great motor thx for any help
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Guys, im the newcommer in GM’s but I want to disable VVT in my 2007 Caddi ESV. So I’ve got a simple question. May I just use tune app and just power off the vvt? Or it’s better to put VVT disable kit? And there is a second question, if I install VVT disable kit, should I also change the camshaft? Or may I stay with the factory one?
Thanks in advance!
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I have a 07 denali with a 6.2, I recently redid the entire engine eliminating the vvt and fuel management system. I went from a single bolt cam to a 3 point cam. Is there a specific cam position sensor that I need cause I keep getting code 0340 which is the cam position sensor fault please help
Great info above, appreciate the help. I’m going backwards than most. I have an L96 from a 2010 Express 2500 that I’m putting in my 2009 Tahoe. I’m planning to use the ECM that came from the van and I’m wondering the feasability of keeping the VVT. Theoretically, it should be as simple as adding the two wires for the cam phaser to the LMG harness connector where they would be in the van. Am I stupid for thinking this would work?
i have a 2013 6.2 with vvt im putting it in a 55 chevy with the computer it came with do i need to do a vvt delete or will it work just fine! not swaping caam or anything
thanks don
I have a 2009 GMC Sierra 1500….
5.3L Vin3 LC9
I am looking at flipping the motor with a 2013 LC9 Vin 7. Apparently these motors have the VVT, where mine did not.
Technically I should be able to replace the camshaft and the timing cover to a non VVT and I should be good to go.
Is there something that I’m missing about this?
Hi, I have a 2012 Express 2500 van with LC8 CNG fuel system. I want to delete the CNG and go with unleaded gas fuel. I have switch over the fuel rails and fuel lines and did the necessary plumbing to the gas tank. What do I need to do with the ECM to accept the unleaded gas fuel? Is there anything else I would need to delete the factory CNG system?
Dose anyone know if there’s a way to tune the deleted vvt in the computer with a bule tooth app I have one but don’t know of app to us for it
I have a 2011 Chevy Silverado 1500 recently installed a 6.0 with stage 2 can I was wondering if it possible for my to just unplug the camshaft phaser Actuator or would I have to put the cover on with it deleted out for it to run