I’ve heard there is a really good factory LS intake manifold out there for cathedral port intakes but the friend who mentioned it didn’t know anything more than that. He said it was from a truck or an SUV but he wasn’t sure. Do you know what he’s talking about? I have a ’69 Chevelle that I’m about to put an iron 5.3L into. The engine is stock but I’m thinking of ways to make a little more power. Does this manifold exist? If so, where do I get it?
M.J.
The intake that I think you are referring to is the GM Trailblazer SS intake. This was stock on the 6.0L Trailblazer SS model SUV. The SS models came with LS2 truck engines that were equipped with a different intake manifold than the car version, and it works very well.
Our buddy Richard Holdener has probably done more LS engine dyno comparative testing than anybody we know. He compared that Trailblazer intake to both the stock, cathedral port truck intake, and the LS6 Corvette intake. The truck intakes were designed to enhance low-speed power in the rpm range where trailer towing puts a heavy emphasis on torque. Conversely, the early LS Corvettes and Camaros used a much shorter intake that gave up a little torque to make more peak horsepower.
The Trailblazer SS (TBSS) intake is tall like the early truck manifolds but a little wider. The GM engineers did their homework on this intake as Holdener discovered. The TBSS will make more torque than the earlier truck intakes and yet will make more horsepower than the old LS6 intakes. The biggest issue with the TBSS is its height, which means it can be a tight fit with the hood closed.
I’ve never measured the clearance for an LS swap in a second generation Chevelle like yours but I do know that this manifold will clear the stock hood of the first generation ’64-’67 Chevelles. My guess is that the Trailblazer SS intake would also fit under your hood line. Of course, EFI means several other changes to your car. But first, let’s answer your question about where to get this intake.
The good news is that you can buy this as an AC Delco part straight out of the Summit Racing catalog for a good price considering it’s a brand new composite AC Delco part. This manifold is bare which means you will need fuel rails, injectors, a throttle body complete with sensors, and a MAP sensor. If you already have a stock truck intake on your 5.3L engine, then you can adapt the injectors and probably the MAP sensor too.
The factory fuel rail is unique to this intake and rather than buy a new one (which might be expensive and will still need to be adapted to the fuel delivery system), we converted our TBSS over to use LS1/LS6 aluminum fuel rails from Holley. The Sniper fuel rail kit is affordable but it does not include mounts for the TBSS intake. We made our own out of 0.120-inch sheet aluminum. The brackets end up in a Z-shape to bolt between the fuel rail and the manifold and are easy to make.
Be aware however that adapting fuel rail mounts can be hazardous from a fuel leak standpoint because if the mounts are not accurate, the injector can leak between the fuel rail and the injector o-rings in the fuel rail. Fuel leaks with a system designed to run at 43 to 58 psi is very dangerous. So if you are going to do this, be sure to test the system first and then keep an eye on the mounts for the first few hundred miles to make sure the mounts properly retain the fuel rail. Fuel leaks are nothing to trifle with and can very dangerous–so be careful.
The TBSS intake also will require a 4-bolt mounting throttle body. The early truck manifolds used a 3-bolt throttle body so it will not transfer–unless you want to purchase an adapter. We’ve listed one from ICT Billet in the parts list section. The least expensive 4-bolt throttle body we found is a Holley Sniper 92mm version. This throttle body will need a TPS sensor and an idle air control motor to make it completely functional.
With the throttle body and fuel rails installed using the stock truck fuel injectors, you will still need an EFI controller. A factory ECU is certainly an option, but if you plan on further modifications to the engine, drivability will suffer unless the system is tuned. Paying someone to tune it may cost as much as buying an aftermarket EFI system. FiTech sells a stand-alone harness that uses its self-learning ECU and software to control a Gen III or IV LS engine. However, the harness is intended to plug into EV1-style injectors that are not the same electrical connector as the factory injectors. If you are retaining the stock 5.3L injectors, you will need adapters to connect the FiTech harness to the GM injectors.
These stand-alone systems come with or without automatic transmission control. So if you are considering running a 4L60E behind your 5.3L motor, the unit with the transmission control will also plug into the transmission. The advantage here is that you will not need a separate controller for the transmission as the FiTech ECU will control both the engine and the transmission.
With a stock or mild camshaft (under 230 degrees at 0.050), the self-learning software will work very well and will establish good part-throttle and WOT tuning very quickly. This might be a great way to approach this engine package that will also be up and running very quickly.
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Chevy Trailblazer Intake Manifold Upgrade Parts
Part | Part Number |
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ACDelco Trailblazer SS Intake Manifold | ADO-12580420 |
Holley Sniper 4-bolt Throttle Body, 92mm | HLY-860004-1 |
Holley Sniper LS1 Billet Fuel Rail Kit | HLY-850001 |
ICT Billet Throttle Body Adapter | ICB-551511 |
FiTech Standalone ECU and Harness, w/o Trans. | FIF-70050 |
FiTech Standalone ECU and Harness, w/Trans. | FIF-70051 |
I would like any articles that u write. Especially on KS style engines.
I just put a Trail Blazer manifold on my 6.0 in my 99′ Silverado 1500 w/a Holley 92mm throttle body.
But I also changed my can from a 235/234 .595/.598 on 114 LS to a 216/220 .600/.600 on 112 LS and electric fans.
I changed all for better drive ability and daily use..
I live in ID up in tge mts bear Canada and yes the trk is a 4X4 and it does real good in snow..
Thank you,
Larry
I have a 6.0 LS MOTOR CAME out of a 2003 Chevy express van 3500 Im going to put it in a 1969 or 70 Chevy Nova will all this information n part#s work for this custom build or swap work on this car n vehicle I’m trying to build-intake injector fuel rails ECU,Harness w/Tran n w/o trans Harness,throttle body kit.all that you mention for the 69 Chevelle with a 5.3 L-LS . Or do you think the old ECM computer and trans computer out of the 2003 Express van WHICH WOULD BE LESS COMPLICATED TO INSTALL AND CHEAPER PRICE. OR THE KITS THAT YOU RECOMMENDED FOR THE 69 CHEVELLE WOULD THAT BE BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT FROM THE EXPRESS VAN 2003 6.0 L-LS 3500 MODEL. I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR ADVICE THANK YOU. SINCERELY JEFF SMITH
Will a gen 4 5.3 throttle body fit on a tbss intake as in all 4 bolts matching up? Will I need a new ecm? Or will a tune be just as efficient ?
Trying to swap tbss onto gen 4 5.3 ly5 and hoping fuel rails and injectors match up. Any input on this? My fuel rail is return less. And have a 4 bolt throttle body
I have an 07 envoy Denali with a 5.3 L is the intake on my motor the same as the TBSS intake, and will i gain
More power and mpg?
Looking at gett2 a used tbss intake. How can i tell if its a true tbss intake? I see the all over used for $100. And im building a budget 6.0 out of a 02 silverado 2500 HD that im wanting to use the tbss intake on.
FWIW…. Brand New Manifold Delivered with sales tax around $125.00 look around
Why would you purchase used manifold for $100?
I recently{the last two days] purchased all new;
ACDelco Trailblazer SS Intake Manifold $125.09
ACDelco 4-bolt Throttle Body $37.00
ACDelco Fuel Rail for the Trailblazer SS Intake Manifold $118
Can you tell me where you bought all your ac delco parts from? Can you send me the link or the website I really appreciate it as I am in the process of purchasing a setup exactly as yours. Thank You
Rockauto tbss intake… 12580420 $139.00
Can this be done / used on a 2007 4.8L?
I have a 2007 Silverado original motor
FWIW
The TBSS manifold used bolts without the rubber isolator.
The original bolts with sleeves are GM part number 12575384.
I am using all new(10 bolts)with the new TBSS
jeff i have a intake from a 2008 LY6 6.0 TRUCK ENGINE AND WOULD IT BE A GOOD UPGRADE ON MY 2001 LS 6.0 TRUCK ENGINE LOOKS LIKE ALL I WOULD NEED IS THE 3-4 BOLT ADAPTER FOR THROTTLE BODY AND A BILLET ADAPTER FOR CATHEDRAL PORT HEAD TO THE RECTANGLER INTAKE PORTS IAM RUNNING 243 HEADS AND A TPS R28 CAM THANKS ANY INPUT WOULD BE APPREIATED
I’m going to put the tbss intake on my 2004 avalanche and it has the Drive by Wire throttle body. Any recommendations on what throttle body to use?
three bolt ? will need an adapter if trying to mount 4 bolt TB to a three-bolt system will x-link adapter
What is the map sensor part number that goes with this Intake?
I’m doing a swap for someone we’re putting one of the 4.8/5.3 Stamped block with the 5.3 crank ls motor. Instead of using the factory intake we’re using the truck intake off the SS trailblazer with a holly sniper 92mm. My questions are what needs to be done to the throttle cable so that it works correctly with the new holly sniper. The original engine was a 4.3 liter v6 with a TBI style intake. Do we need a newer line an gas pedal so that it connects to the new mounting location of the holly sniper that is front mounted an facing the front of the vehicle an is no longer pointing straight up at the hood. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks! Mvrktnezctv69@gmail.com
Sorry for the confusion I’m doing a 4.3 to 5.3 swap the motor is 2001
I’m swapping LS 5.3 to my ’96 Yukon,is this intake manifold is better or Corvette LS6 low intake is better.
thanks
I have a 2016 2500hd 6.0 that I am looking to start working on the motor. My tuner does not like the fast intakes but want more than just a ported truck intake and throttle body. I cant find anything on a newer truck. What would i need to make a TBSS intake work?
what is that red thing on the back of the intake manifold on this page. I know it moves in and out but I have no idea what it is or what it does.
I have a 2000 5.3 ls would it be possible to order the fuel rail brackets from you?
Morning. My son & I are building a LS1 Miata. Looking for the lowest possible intake setup to clear the hood. We placed the 243 cathedral heads on the block. Currently have the 3 hole throttle body set up and the hood is hitting the mass on top of the throttle body horn and the intake flange. Can you suggest anything?
Iam wanting to do the best cam upgrade on my 06 5.3l33 4wd. Also go to a TBSS intake what changes do I need to expect on the intake. It will be a daily driver but would like a bigger punch all the way around. I Plan on doing a exhaust and tune from Black Bear. Also fuel rails,injector throttle body upgrades. Converting from dbw to cable. Your thoughts?
You have suggested the wrong fuel rails for this intake. THE 850001 HOLLEY fuel rails do not work on this intake. They are not even the same fuel rails that you used on your intake build. You used 534-209 holley fuel rails. The rails you suggested are totally wrong. The fuel rails have to have the slanted injector bungs not straight ones. Per your advice and your advice only has cost me the $120.00 it costs for the fuel rails, and now I had to buy the right fuel rails needed. Thanks a lot for that one.
I have an 06 Chevy Z71 with a 5-3 in the 4 L 60 e transmission I currently replaced or am replacing my transmission I took off the intake manifold and got to thinking about upgrading my intake am I able to pick up like an LS6 intake and bolt that on or am I able to put a upgraded throttle body on my factory intake what’s your opinion on that and do I have to do an ECM tune to get the throttle body to run right or if I had an LS6 intake on it to get that to run right or correct…? I’m fairly new at this I mean I’m not stupid I can figure out most stuff it’s just the fine details that I need help with
Hello, I installed a 2007 5.3l and 4l60E (transmission has had a complete professional rebuild) into my 78 scout II, wired using a fitech harness. As well I have a Novak adapter with speed sensor. Here we are today with the truck finished and the engine running perfect, except the transmission will not shift out of first gear. What might be the issue, and what are my other options if any to get this resolved and on the rad before the snow flies.
Thank you, gordon